Tubeless conversion options

wookinpanub

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As an existing owner of a '13 S10 and (hopefully) new owner of a T700 shortly, I've been considering how to set it up for my riding. One of those considerations is the ability to quickly and easily plug a tire should a flat occur. While some don't mind removing the tire to patch / replace a tube (which is what comes stock on a T700), I prefer the ease of a plug / patch kit on a tubeless rim (as the S10s came with standard) with the tire still on the rim. As such I've been considering conversion options and have compiled the below with what I've been able to find. As I've never done this, I would be very interested if there are additional / other options and people's experiences with those options.

The other consideration is that I've seen some older threads indicating the front rim does not have a bead hump, and if so would require a different rim to be able to mount a tubeless tire?

  1. Tubeless Rims: These would be the most straightforward and lowest risk of possible air leaks, but with the few options I'm seeing this appears incredibly expensive
    1. Link: Alpina
    2. Cost: Starting at $1700+
  2. Outex: This appears to be a type of tape that goes on the inside of the rim covering the holes where the spokes are to create a air tight seal
    1. Link: Outex and Woodys Wheels
    2. Cost: $130 to $200 for both wheels
  3. Bartubeless: A polymer rubber band applied to the inside of the rim (like the Outex option) to make the rim air tight. This is *not* a DIY option, the rims have to be shipped in.
    1. Link: BARTubeless
    2. Cost: $130 per wheel *plus* shipping to Europe and back
  4. Tubliss: A small diameter, high-pressure bladder that holds the tire against the rim like a 360-degree rim lock.
    1. Link: Tubliss
    2. Cost: $100 per tire
  5. Bib Mousse: An insert that replaces the tubes and functions as a run flat.
    1. Link: Bib Mousse
    2. Cost: $160+ per tire
    3. Concern: "Runs hotter than tubes; hot enough to melt at sustained high speeds above 80mph."?
 

Venture

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I'm thinking I'd try the other options before investing in tubeless rims for sure. Too expensive. Probably try the Outex and Bartubeless. Do all the non new wheel options still allow for a tube in an emergency?
 

wookinpanub

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It won't let me edit my original post, but another possible option provided I can get some 'heavies' to weigh in...

Exploring the option of replacing the rims with some that are tubeless (and not the insanely expensive Alpina option listed in my original post), I noted the KTM 790RR runs tubeless rims like our S10s do (spoked, but tubeless).

Comparing the rim dimensions shows they are darn close to each other, but are they close enough that rims from a KTM 790 would work on a Tenere 700?

  1. KTM 790RR:
    1. Rear: 21" x 2.15”
    2. Front: 18" x 4.00”
  2. Tenere 700
    1. Rear: 21" x 2.50"
    2. Front: 18" x 4.50"
 

Twinrider

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As an existing owner of a '13 S10 and (hopefully) new owner of a T700 shortly, I've been considering how to set it up for my riding. One of those considerations is the ability to quickly and easily plug a tire should a flat occur. While some don't mind removing the tire to patch / replace a tube (which is what comes stock on a T700), I prefer the ease of a plug / patch kit on a tubeless rim (as the S10s came with standard) with the tire still on the rim. As such I've been considering conversion options and have compiled the below with what I've been able to find. As I've never done this, I would be very interested if there are additional / other options and people's experiences with those options.

The other consideration is that I've seen some older threads indicating the front rim does not have a bead hump, and if so would require a different rim to be able to mount a tubeless tire?

  1. Tubeless Rims: These would be the most straightforward and lowest risk of possible air leaks, but with the few options I'm seeing this appears incredibly expensive
    1. Link: Alpina
    2. Cost: Starting at $1700+
  2. Outex: This appears to be a type of tape that goes on the inside of the rim covering the holes where the spokes are to create a air tight seal
    1. Link: Outex and Woodys Wheels
    2. Cost: $130 to $200 for both wheels
  3. Bartubeless: A polymer rubber band applied to the inside of the rim (like the Outex option) to make the rim air tight. This is *not* a DIY option, the rims have to be shipped in.
    1. Link: BARTubeless
    2. Cost: $130 per wheel *plus* shipping to Europe and back
  4. Tubliss: A small diameter, high-pressure bladder that holds the tire against the rim like a 360-degree rim lock.
    1. Link: Tubliss
    2. Cost: $100 per tire
  5. Bib Mousse: An insert that replaces the tubes and functions as a run flat.
    1. Link: Bib Mousse
    2. Cost: $160+ per tire
    3. Concern: "Runs hotter than tubes; hot enough to melt at sustained high speeds above 80mph."?

I ran Outex for two years on my Africa Twin with zero problems before selling the bike. The kit is inexpensive but well made, with three layers to ensure it stays air tight and the spokes can still be adjusted.

Tubliss is great for light dirt bikes (had it on my KTM 350), but it's not made for heavy adv bikes.
 
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